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Old Nov 02, 2006, 06:27 PM // 18:27   #1
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Default abbadon/varesh vs. shiro tagashi vs. the lich

So who do u think is the meanest/most dangerous
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Old Nov 02, 2006, 06:33 PM // 18:33   #2
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It would take ten Liches to make one Varesh.
And at least twenty Shiro's.

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Old Nov 02, 2006, 06:37 PM // 18:37   #3
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lol yeah probably like this:
a GOD vs. a meanie who has an army of rocks vs. an meanie with 2 blades
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Old Nov 02, 2006, 06:46 PM // 18:46   #4
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Abaddon > Shiro > Wammo > Lich
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Old Nov 02, 2006, 07:00 PM // 19:00   #5
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wats wammo?
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Old Nov 02, 2006, 07:25 PM // 19:25   #6
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ROFL, wammo owns all!
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Old Nov 02, 2006, 07:59 PM // 19:59   #7
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wats wammo?
A wammo is a W/Mo that uses skills like healing hands, mending, etc.
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Old Nov 02, 2006, 11:29 PM // 23:29   #8
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Anything as big and ugly as Abbadon has to be evilest of them all
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Old Nov 03, 2006, 12:41 AM // 00:41   #9
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Anything as big and ugly as Abbadon has to be evilest of them all
Words of madness or whatever the hell it is > all.

God that skill pisses me off, Ether Prodigy / HP / Extinguish, E/Mo hero ftw. :3
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Old Nov 04, 2006, 03:51 PM // 15:51   #10
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Abbadon since he is ALL evil (that contains both The Lich and Shiro)
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Old Nov 04, 2006, 11:36 PM // 23:36   #11
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since it is agreed that abbadon would pwn all of them lets change it to veresh. i havnt fought veresh yet but i do think that the lich is a pansy that would get killed by shiro in 10 seconds (making the whole battle last about a minute since the lich has like 4 lives). if both the lich and shiros armies fought then shiro would still probably still win because of the shiro'ken constructs.
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Old Nov 05, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56   #12
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I dont know...in the game,i think shiro would be toughest to fight(god i miss those celestial skills)..the lich is just..ok....he hits hard but he goes down very quickly too....i do 139+ dmg on him with normal attacks with a holy/fire(enchanted) weapon on my dervish....and shiro is just URGH....some ppl got stuck there forever just because of him....he's lvl 31 now and his impossible odds pwns everything....

as for varesh u can still hench tht mission ntg too hard ...in prophet form...she isnt hard at all...in commander form,she'll summon creatures all around the place but we found a very easy way to defeat her...most of u probably know how to do it already...

Stucked with shiro now.....so no chance to face abbadon yet.... ..Hence,Shiro is probably the deadliest.....as he could pawn almost everything while being alone......

sorry if this is the wrong place to post this....
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Old Nov 05, 2006, 01:35 AM // 01:35   #13
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@ OP...Shiro, only in my experience

@ Gairoh
skills like defensive anthem/aegis x2 help with shiro greatly
back in factions part of the rangers celestial skill was to prevent Impossible Odds hurting your team

also with the buff of Spoil Victor(anet may as well call it Shiro Buster), combine with Awaken the Blood, lol hes dead in about 10 seconds, since shiro loves to do his Impossible Odds frequently, hope your defensive anthem/aegis chain can hold, and shiro will take 1000 dmg a second
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Old Nov 05, 2006, 03:11 AM // 03:11   #14
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Abbadon of course... Shiro is a tuff guy as well, but beating Abbadon took longer. ^^
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Old Nov 05, 2006, 10:43 PM // 22:43   #15
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shiro got buffed? bout time. but whats with the "defensive anthem" and "spoil victor"? are they the dervish and paragon's celestial skills?
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shiro got buffed? bout time. but whats with the "defensive anthem" and "spoil victor"? are they the dervish and paragon's celestial skills?
Not close....

Defensive Anthem = paragon NF elite
Spoil Victor = necro Factions elite
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Old Nov 05, 2006, 11:23 PM // 23:23   #17
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...do dervishes and paragons have celestial skills?
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Old Nov 06, 2006, 01:41 AM // 01:41   #18
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apparently my new storage character & hench > abaddon > shiro > lich

he could still get his butt kicked by a wammo though. they're RELENTLESS!

nightfall shiro is a lot easier to kill. i put my koss on him while the rest of the hench killed the lich. pretty compiant. i tried the hench on the last factions mission and that same build did nothing to his meditation.

factions shiro > nf shiro.

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Old Nov 06, 2006, 02:57 AM // 02:57   #19
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Haven't fought Varesh yet but the title alone ruined the storyline for me. I would say the Lich because Shiro took me 1:32 secs to beat and the Lich was annoying when he teleports you to the little island and his big long @$$ mission.
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Old Nov 06, 2006, 04:10 AM // 04:10   #20
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I dont know...in the game,i think shiro would be toughest to fight(god i miss those celestial skills)..the lich is just..ok....he hits hard but he goes down very quickly too....i do 139+ dmg on him with normal attacks with a holy/fire(enchanted) weapon on my dervish....and shiro is just URGH....some ppl got stuck there forever just because of him....he's lvl 31 now and his impossible odds pwns everything....

as for varesh u can still hench tht mission ntg too hard ...in prophet form...she isnt hard at all...in commander form,she'll summon creatures all around the place but we found a very easy way to defeat her...most of u probably know how to do it already...

Stucked with shiro now.....so no chance to face abbadon yet.... ..Hence,Shiro is probably the deadliest.....as he could pawn almost everything while being alone......

sorry if this is the wrong place to post this....
***NIGHTFALL SPOILERS*****



funny thing about impossible odds, we were fighting SHIRO and the LICH at the same time during that one mission, there was me, an ECHO SS, and also an MM in the party... well, the minions got all up on shiro and i had casted Insidious parasite on him... meaning, impossible odds hits a foe twice, and there were like 7 minions on shiro plus any melee chars or what not, so if you do the math, thats like 8 or 9 targets, times 47 (how much health he loses per hit with insidious parasite), times 2 (cuz he hits them twice with the skill impossible odds)...

so... lets just say 8 targets:

8 x 2 x 47 = 752 damage.... thats how we killed him... er he killed himself
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